“Won’t that ruin the vintage sound?”

Audio as a hobby sits in an interesting place in the world. There are hard numbers and objective measurements made with lab equipment on one end, and on the other end you have the subjective and variable linguistic descriptions assigned to amplifiers, speakers, and even cables and wires on the other.

Sadly, I find myself in the position of having to clear up some pretty serious misconceptions for people after questions and comments to this effect have popped up on several forums, an e-mail to the shop, and a rather rude note (with very poor grammar and spelling) accusing me of “ruining the vintage sound” on a piece of gear by daring to replace faulty components with new ones.

So, to that end, a few points of clarification:

1. When your vintage amplifier was new, it used new parts. 

That’s right. Your vintage amplifier used to be a shiny, new amplifier using the best materials and engineering techniques the factory could muster. For most amplifiers made in the 1970s, there’s not a huge difference in the quality and operation of components then and now. Capacitors are a bit smaller now, and generally are built to tighter tolerances with some different materials, but their fundamental principle of operation remains the same. It’s true that some exotic parts could have a noticeable performance impact, but these aren’t common and are hard to buy by mistake.

Stick with decent quality components from a reputable brand, like CDE, ELNA, Nichicon, Panasonic, Sprague or Vishay and you’ll get parts that are significantly similar to whatever the manufacturer picked out when your gear was new.

2. The sound signature of your amp depends more on the circuit design than the passive component choices.

That’s right: passive components don’t really change that much, if anything. The layout of the components on the circuit board, the choice of circuit topologies used to fulfill the various functions and needs, the design of the power supply and the enclosure, and the cable routing inside the housing are the biggest contributors to an amplifier’s unique sound signature.

The brand of capacitors you used (assuming you’re using good-quality parts) has almost no impact on the sound whatsoever.

Active devices can cause a bigger change in sound than passives. The selection of active devices – the specific transistor used and it’s group/rank if acceptable can make a difference in the sound, which is why it’s important to replace active components with replacements as similar as possible to the originals. In general, though, even substituting transistors won’t significantly change the sound of an amplifier unless you’ve replaced a whole lot of them, or they were somewhere very sensitive in the circuit. Since the vast majority of repairs require no transistor replacements whatsoever, this tends not to be a real problem.

3. If your gear really has a “vintage sound” to it, you’re most likely hearing the amp’s problems and not the amp as its designers intended.

Pre- and Non-Hifi gear aside, if your amp or other stereo component hasn’t been serviced in a long time and has a specifically colored sound signature that you’re calling “vintage sound”, you’re hearing problems in the circuit. Leaky and failing caps throw off response curves, cut bass response, rob the amplifier of stable power, can throw off bias introducing distortion, and generally make a mess of things.

Amplifiers in the heyday of stereo, just as today, were designed to deliver accurate and lifelike reproduction of recorded audio, and the manufacturers generally tried for as flat a frequency response and as low of a distortion figure as possible given their engineering constraints and target market/price.

In Conclusion

If you like your music to be clouded in unpredictable ways by failing components in an out-of-adjustment amplifier, by all means, don’t replace old parts, or replace them only with NOS parts. You’ll have an amplifier that’s constantly in and out of the shop until one day it finally dies a final death at the hands of faulty parts destroying something unobtainable.

Alternatively, do you want to listen to your vintage gear sounding as it’s manufacturer intended it to sound when it was new? Do you want to listen to your music the way it was recorded and the way the band and the recording engineer wanted it to be heard? Do you want to use an amp that’s safe and reliable to operate? If you answered yes to any of these questions, then professional service with quality replacement parts is the answer.

What do you think?

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Neat Little 60FX5 Stereo Single-Ended Tube Amplifier

While digging around, I came across a really simple circuit in the RCA Receiving Tube Manual describing a 1WPC stereo amplifier using only two tubes, the 60FX5 power pentodes, and a single silicon diode. The 60FX5s have high enough gain they don’t need a driver stage, and were designed to use a crystal or ceramic phonograph pickup which is compatible with the output voltages of most modern electronics, too.

60FX5 Power Pentode Stereo Amplifier

Looks pretty easy. This is something like you might find in a portable suitcase record player or similar, on the lower end of the cost spectrum.

If I were going to build this – and I might if I ever get a spare minute not working on repair projects – I’d probably start with an isolation transformer like the Triad N68X for safety, and eliminate the 0.22M resistor and 0.1 uF capacitor in the chassis network. The diode would be a 1N4007, naturally. The output transformers might be a tougher, though. I’m not sure of the specs on the Triad S-16X they specified, but with a low-power, economy amp like this one would probably not have met the day’s hi-fi spec, 40 Hz – 15 kHz. Small output transformers just don’t have enough iron to really couple bass well, among other things. There’s the Edcor XSE10-8-3K, offering 70 Hz – 18 kHz +/- 1 dB at $19 a piece. A transformer that’s flat 20 Hz – 20 kHz would be massively oversized and cost considerably more, like the Edcor CXSE25-8-3K coming in at over $90 each unit.

The 60FX5 tubes themselves are about $8 a piece on eBay. Ceramic 7-pin sockets are only around $2 each, too. The controls are probably about $10 – I’d just use a dual 1 Meg audio pot, and find a 2 Meg trimmer for the balance control and pre-set it during construction. The rest of passives would cost about another $10, a power cord, a cake pan from the grocery store for a chassis and you’re at $100 in parts to build the amp from the ground up. You’d need to use very efficient speakers, though!

If anyone builds one of these, and you send it to me, I’ll measure it’s specs with the Audio Precision analyzer!

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The Speaker Spotter – March 3rd, 2016

Some interesting stuff on Craigslist in this week’s The Speaker Spotter, a curated selection of Seattle’s local speakers for sale online. As always, Retrovoltage is not affiliated with any of these sellers and you should click through the link to the original post if you’re interested. If a link is dead, most likely those speakers are gone!

Vintage JBL L55 Speakers
$250 in Burien, WA

Just south of Seattle, this pair of vintage JBLs have some cosmetic damage to the cabinets but look to have intact drivers, and will for sure have that vintage JBL sound you can’t find anywhere else. As far as the condition, well…speakers are meant for listening, not watching, anyway!

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Bose 901 Speakers
$325 in North Kenmore

This looks to be a solid deal for a set of Bose 901 speakers, which come with their original equalizer and paperwork. They seem to be in decent cosmetic shape, although with an equalizer that old it probably could use a once-over for the best sound. Series I and II have cloth surrounds, so there are almost never driver issues with these older pairs, too.

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Tannoy DC-200 Dual Concentric Speakers
$425 in Lake Stevens, WA

It’s a bit of a drive, but if you’re a fan of Tannoy it might be worth it to check out these DC-200 Dual Concentric Speakers. Their current owner reports he’s their second and they’re in good condition. I’m not very familiar with Tannoy speakers, other than having heard the name a bit, but they seem to use concentric/coaxial drivers like KEF and some older EV speakers. Looks worth checking out!

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KEF Q65 Tower Speakers
$250 in Olympia

While we’re talking about concentric drivers, here’s a KEF Q65 with a 6×9″ bass driver and concentric mid/tweeter, UK built and ready for bi-amping if desired. They look to have a decent frequency response, 38 Hz – 20 kHz at 91 dB sensitivity. I’m always a fan of strangely-shaped drivers, too.

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Phase Research Transmission Line Prototype Speakers
$140 in Everett, WA

These look interesting, and worth including, since I’m a sucker for anything that’s a one-off, prototype, or just a generally-unloved speaker from the ’70s. These are from 1978 and feature an interesting driver array and transmission line cabinet with rear opening. I wonder how they sound!

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Totem Acoustic Hawk Speakers
$1600 in Olympia

Speaking of transmission lines, if you’re in the market for something a bit higher-budget, these might be a good choice. They look like they’d be a great speaker if you’re looking for something that delivers tight sound, while still having a nice “furniture” look and likely wife-acceptance-factor. Spendy, though!

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ESS Tempest B2 Speakers
$350 in Everett

ESS was and is famous for their “air motion transformer” (AMT) tweeters which are a very interesting electrostatic hybrid design. Plenty about them written elsewhere, but if you’re looking for that kind of speaker in a large bookshelf form factor, this one’s for you.

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Dali Helicon 300 Home Stereo Speakers
$1995 in Tacoma, WA

These boutique-brand speakers feature a 6.5″ woofer, and both silk dome and ribbon tweeters. I bet they’re fantastically accurate while still being smooth in the high end. Great looking finish on these, too. I’d love to give them a listen!

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Carver Loudspeakers
$2000 in Redmond, WA

Haven’t seen enough ribbons and planar tweeters yet? Or maybe your speakers have a small surface area and you’re craving wide open spaces? These gigantic Carver electrostatic planar speakers might be what you need. They look to have two active elements, upgraded ribbons, and each appears to be about the size of your average door. I’ve never heard these myself, but Carver has a great reputation for amps, of which this seller also has many.

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New Bench Storage

Some pegboards, and wall mounting some parts bins, really cleaned up the benchtop!

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555 timer teardown (and a Retrovoltage drum trigger project)

Ken Shirriff’s blog has a fantastic and detailed teardown of a 555 timer, the ubiquitous decades-old timer circuit that turns up in so many places:

If you’ve played around with electronic circuits, you probably know the 555 timer integrated circuit, said to be the world’s best-selling integrated circuit with billions sold. Designed by analog IC wizard Hans Camenzind in 1970, the 555 has been called one of the greatest chips of all time with whole books devoted to 555 timer circuits.

Given the popularity of the 555 timer, I thought it would be interesting to find out what’s inside the 555 timer and how it works. While the 555 timer is usually sold as a black plastic IC, it is also available in a metal can, which can be cut open with a hacksaw revealing the tiny die inside.

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via 555 timer teardown: inside the world’s most popular IC.

Ken takes us through the history, use, die, and individual transistor circuits implemented on the die on his blog. It’s a fascinating read well worth spending an hour exploring.

I don’t get into 555s that often myself, but last summer Retrovoltage built an LED flasher circuit centered around a 555 for local Seattle band Breakaway Derringer‘s drummer. (They’re a great band that’s worth checking out if you enjoy cowboy punk rock!)

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The 555 operates in single-shot mode, driven by a drum trigger sensor to switch on a TIP31C power transistor supplying power to LED strips.

The drum project was based on an Instructable that he found. You can find that Instructable here…but if you do, pay careful attention to the pin numbering on the schematic, which borders on nonsensical and definitely does not match the physical layout of the chip.

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He’s only using one, but you can do some pretty neat effects with this idea.

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Antique Radio Shop near Kunming, Yunan, China

My friends over at Crimson Lotus Tea sent me this photo of an antique radio shop near Kunming, Yunan in China they ran into during a recent trip.

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They’re stacked to the ceiling in the shadows. Looks like a fun place to explore!

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Building the SSTRAN Part 15 Low Power AM Transmitter Kit

Have a bunch of old tube radios, but nothing good on the air in your area? That’s a common problem, and SSTRAN has the solution! I just built one of these to give as a gift, and thought I’d write up the experience. It’s a somewhat complex kit to build with quite a few parts, but if you’re decent at soldering and have some patience, you shouldn’t have any trouble.

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Everything came neatly packaged in a box with a detailed set of instructions. Inside, the parts were kitted out based on their type and which step of the build process they’d be useful.

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The instructions are very detailed, including which color codes you can expect to find on the coded parts, and the assembly steps follow a logical path building up the bare PCB. There are even tips about how to get the best solder joints and soldering techniques on the plated through-hole board.

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One chip, a surface mount IC, came pre-soldered; everything else was for the recipient.

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I followed the instructions, documenting each step along the way. Resistors first:

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Small chokes next:

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Rectifiers and small-signal diodes:

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Next up was the resistor network, a set of 9 x 10K resistors in a SIPP arrangement with a common pin.

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The board is starting to fill up! Next up were the IC sockets. This is always a nice touch – it’s easy enough to put ICs directly on the board if you’ve perfected your technique but can be tricky, and it’s easy to burn up an IC by accident. Sockets make it easy to fix a mistake.

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Jumpers and switches next. Later these are used to set the frequency range according to tables in the back of the manual.

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Next up were the small fixed capacitors:

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Getting there!

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Just a few more parts: jacks, the ceramic trimmer for the output circuit, front panel controls, and some other bits.

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Transistors were one of the last items to finish on the board:

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Followed by big power supply chokes:

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Last was the voltage regulator’s heat sink, and the crystal.

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Time to fire it up!

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The transmitter accepts L+R audio input, downmixed to mono internally, and a power supply; the antenna and counterpoise are also connected via an RCA jack. There are adjustments for audio gain, audio compression, and modulation. These controls interact somewhat, and vary a bit depending on what you’re using to receive, so tend to need to be tweaked for best sound quality once you’ve got the system on the air.

The next step was to tune the output. The construction manual lists an easy procedure to measure a voltage across a set of points while adjusting the trimmer. Here I did diverge a bit to use my spectrum analyzer with a small antenna and measure the output that way, since I had already been using the analyzer earlier.

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Finally, it was time to snap it together into its case:

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All done!

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This was a very straightforward project to assemble, and I expect it should be able to be completed by anyone. It took me about 4 hours to complete this project (stopping to take photos along the way); if you’re on a mission I think it could be done in as low as 2 hours. If you’re pressed for time or are new to the hobby and want to go slowly, it’s easily divided up into steps which you can work on one at a time, a few minutes a day, until you’re finished.

As far as performance, it sounds great playing through a selection of vintage tube radios – just like it’s supposed to! I’d highly recommend this kit if you need a low powered AM transmitter solution for your own collection.

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Retro 1956 Cyclometer VTVM – Hycon Model 615

A pretty cool, very rare piece of test equipment turned up on eBay recently: a 1956 Hycon model 615 AC/DC VTVM. This was a precursor of today’s digital, using analog servo circuitry to drive the numeric digit display.

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These were a big-ticket item back in the day:$374.50 in 1956 would have been around $3,200 in today’s dollars, adjusted for inflation!

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Cyclometer drive displays started turning up in the 1930s, and disappeared by the 1960s as direct digital read-outs (numitrons and decatrons, nixie tubes, and later VFDs and LED/LCDs) became available. They were initially used in clocks, with cyclometer meters appearing in the 1950s and lasting for about 10 years. Most turned up in even higher-end lab equipment, with cyclometer displays being quite rare on benchtop equipment.

This would be a great collector’s item, especially if you could get it running again! If the servo motor is good, it should be possible; there’s a schematic over at Hycon Model 615: Radiomuseum.

[Vintage 1956 Hycon Model 615 VTVM Vacuum Tube Voltmeter *Non Working*]

 

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Building a Better Voltage Regulator

Glancing through my feeds, I stumbled across a note on The Paleotechnologist describing a new replacement for the venerable LM7805 linear regulator IC. It turns up in a ton of devices, pretty much anything with a medium-current 5V rail including some stereos, computers, power supplies…mostly anything you can think of. And the old version isn’t that efficient:

Take the LM7805, for example. It does a good job of regulating voltage — from a minimum of about 7V or so, it will provide a steady 5VDC output. The only real problem is that it does this by basically adding a dynamic resistance to simply burn off the excess voltage at whatever current you’re using. If you were to power a 5V, 1A load through a LM7805 connected to 12V, it would need to dissipate 7W of power, since it would basically be acting as a resistor; that 7V voltage drop, combined with the 1A of current, means it would be putting out 7W of heat. Without a BIG heatsink, it would quickly get too hot to work. Also, you’d be wasting over half of the power for the device, even if the rest of your circuit was 100% efficient.

via A Better Voltage Regulator | The Paleotechnologist.

Looks like CUI came out with a new, drop-in 7805 replacement which implements a DC-DC switching converter for voltage regulation, rather than a linear regulator. Way less heat and lost power with this module! I’ll probably spec it in future projects if I end up needing to replace a 7805 in some old gear, looks very interesting!

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The folks over at Hack-a-Day have already found a hobbyist who put this module through it’s paces. Daniel over at Daniel’s Electronics Blog does some bench testing the switching drop-in replacement for the 7805. to test it’s efficiency.

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The graph of efficiency versus load is shown below, the peak efficiency is around 92%. Not bad for a 12V input.

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Not bad for a 12V input indeed, the linear chip would be wasting a ton of power as scorching heat with the same conditions.

The Paleotechnologist: A Better Voltage Regulator

Hack-a-Day: BENCH TESTING A SWITCH MODE DROP IN REPLACEMENT FOR THE LM7805

Daniel’s Electronics Blog: Testing a DC-DC Converter Module

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The Speaker Spotter – February 14th, 2016

Another installment of the occasional series “The Speaker Spotter”, showcasing interesting speakers for sale right now on the local Seattle Craigslist. As always, I am not affiliated with any of these postings. If the linked ad doesn’t load, it’s likely the item already sold. If you like what you see, you should contact the seller by clicking through to the original posting.

Soniphase Fully Horn-Loaded Speakers
$1795 in Kent

The seller describes these as similar to Klipschorns or La Scalas, and indeed they look very similar to a K-Horn except a bit narrower, and with a port at the bottom front. 15″ woofer down to 35 Hz without a corner (and lower in one), and treble to past 20 KHz sounds like a good combination to me.

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RTR DR-1 Electrostatic Hybrid Speakers
$1999 in Kent

“These completely unique speakers were manufactured by RTR in around 1980 or 81. They utilize a cylindrical electrostatic element from 350hz/up and an innovative three-woofer bass section from 350/below.” These speakers look unlike anything I’ve ever seen, but I’d love to listen to a pair. Shared without further comment because I’m unfamiliar with the entire RTR line-up – but I’m fascinated.

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Marantz Imperial 6G Speakers
$160 in Olympia, WA

Solidly designed, no-frills speakers, these are pretty efficient and have a 10″ woofer and a phenolic ring tweeter. I’m a big fan of the way the phenolic ring driver manages to sound both clear and accurate, but without any rough edges; any speaker with the ring tweeter is worth a look anyway. The dust covers on the woofers are pushed in but it looks like the grille cloths are intact. Not a bad set of speakers for a starter vintage system.

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Coral BX 2000 Speakers
$175 in Olympia, WA

I’ve always understood Coral speakers to be a great example of “kabuki” speakers which had their driver selection and placement dictated more by aesthetics than acoustics, although some of them can sound pretty good. I’m not sure where these fit into the line-up, but they have interesting fan-shaped diffusers over the twin mids and twin tweeters, and what looks like a 12″ woofer. I’d guess it probably sounds somewhat similar to a Sansui.

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“Speaker Factory” Speakerlab Speakers
$300 in N. Seattle

Speakerlab built great products down to their entry-level models, both kits and manufactured speakers. They were fond of using components fairly similar to what Klipsch used at the time, and used some really innovative designs. By visiting the Speakerlab web site, I found these are Speakerlab 4s. (Page 23) I’m a fan of the Electrovoice T-35 tweeters used in these and many other Speakerlab speakers, I bet they sound great in a mid-sized system.

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Speakerlab Tower Speakers
$200 in Bonney Lake

These are an alternative driver arrangement of the Speakerlab 7s from the looks of it: tall horn mid, EV T-35 tweeter, and pair of 12″ woofers with one being a passive radiator. With the mid oriented vertically, though, I think these would have a very narrow sweet spot. Great to focus on your hifi chair, maybe not so great if these are going to be paired with a stereo system by a couch. Very interesting!

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Speakerlab 7s
$350 in Everett, WA

Another set of Speakerlab 7s, again in a nontraditional cabinet. These are in rough shape compared with the previous set. The T-35 is mounted vertically in this set, with the midrange horn mounted horizontally along the top. Fortunately, the builder set up the T-35s to be directional so there’s a “Left” and “Right” speaker which will allow for adjusting the sound field a bit more accurately.

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Speakerlab K-Horns
$450 in Marysville, WA

This is a set of the later-generation Speakerlab Ks. The earlier generation was a very close clone of the Klipsch Klipschorn, being fully horn loaded. These have a folded horn with either a 12″ or a 15″ woofer, a front-firing 8″ cone midrange, and vertically mounted EV T-35 tweeter. I bet they sound quite good, and could be used in a room a little smaller than the full-sized K-Horns. The prices vary wildly on them, but this seems to be fair.

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“Large Vintage Speakers, Horns & Woofers” 
$300 in Lakeridge

These look really interesting, like they might be a clone of an Altec Lansing of some kind. The woofers need to be refoamed. The owner doesn’t know what brand the drivers are, either. These do look like they’d be a really good project, and you might get lucky with the drivers.

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Microtower MT-1 Stereo Speakers
$35 in Lakewood, WA

Definitely coming in at the bottom end of the price range, I’ve actually featured these before at a slightly higher price. They’re just kind of novel. These are a pair of enclosures with two 4.5″ drivers mounted in the top and a lengthy cavity and port opening on the bottom. Maybe an early type of waveguide cabinet? I don’t think these would win any awards for sound quality, but they might be interesting to listen to.

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